kae3g 9988: The New Ancient Cities — 2025 Geopolitical Cartography
Timestamp: 12025-10-06–rhizome-valley
 Series: Technical Writings (9999 → 0000)
 Category: Geopolitics, Historical Patterns, Strategic Analysis
 Reading Time: 20 minutes
"Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it." — George Santayana
"Under heaven all is chaos; the situation is excellent." — Attributed to Mao Zedong (possibly apocryphal, but instructive)
"The more things change, the more they stay the same." — Jean-Baptiste Alphonse Karr
Warning: This essay contains opinionated analysis of current conflicts. It seeks historical patterns, not political advocacy. Read with discernment.
For Guardian Garden PBC: Understanding empire's decline helps us build what comes after.
Introduction: The Eternal Return of Geopolitical Archetypes
History doesn't repeat, but it rhymes—sometimes in perfect iambic pentameter.
The cities and conflicts of 2025 mirror ancient patterns with uncanny precision. Not because history is cyclical, but because human nature, geography, and power dynamics follow predictable forms. Maritime powers challenge land powers. Trading cities become wealthy and vulnerable. Imperial overreach precedes collapse. Regional powers compete for legitimacy.
The thesis: Every major city in 2025 can be mapped onto an ancient archetype. Understanding these patterns helps us navigate the chaos and build resilient communities in the spaces between empires.
The method: Rich Hickey teaches us to find the simple essence beneath complex surfaces. Let's strip away modern terminology and see the ancient patterns.
Part I: The Three Theaters of Conflict
Theater One: Ukraine — The Endless Steppe War
Historical Pattern: The Ukrainian plains have been contested for millennia. Scythians, Sarmatians, Goths, Huns, Khazars, Mongols, Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth, Russian Empire, Soviet Union—the list is long because the pattern is eternal.
Why: The Ukrainian breadbasket is the most productive agricultural land in Europe, a natural invasion route between East and West, and whoever controls it controls food security for the continent.
The Ancient War This Resembles: The Greco-Persian Wars (499-449 BCE), but reversed.
- Greece (democratic, naval, western) = Ukraine (democratic, western-aligned, fighting for sovereignty)
- Persia (autocratic, land empire, eastern) = Russia (autocratic, land empire, eastern)
- Athens = United States/NATO (distant naval power providing support but not troops)
- Sparta = European powers (reluctant, self-interested, calculating)
Key Insight: Like the Persian Wars, this isn't about Ukraine itself—it's about whether western liberal democracy or eastern autocracy dominates the Eurasian landmass. The grain fields of Ukraine are the 21st century's Thermopylae.
Theater Two: Gaza and Iran — The Levantine Perpetual War
Historical Pattern: The Eastern Mediterranean has been a war zone since cities first emerged. Egypt vs. Hittites, Assyria vs. everyone, Babylon vs. Judah, Persia vs. Greece, Rome vs. Parthia, Byzantium vs. Sassanids, Crusaders vs. Saracens, Ottomans vs. everyone.
Why: The Levant is the land bridge between Africa, Asia, and Europe. Whoever controls it controls trade routes. It's also saturated with religious significance for Judaism, Christianity, and Islam—making compromise nearly impossible.
The Ancient War This Resembles: The Punic Wars (264-146 BCE), but theological.
- Rome (rising power, militaristic, "civilizing" mission) = Israel (regional hegemon, military superiority, sees itself as bringing order)
- Carthage (trading power, diaspora, "alien" to Rome) = Palestinian cause (dispersed people, resistance identity, seen as existential threat)
- Hannibal = Hamas/Hezbollah (asymmetric warfare, striking from unexpected directions)
- Scipio Africanus = IDF (methodical, overwhelming force, strategic depth)
- Persia (backing Carthage) = Iran (backing resistance, proxy warfare, long game)
Key Insight: Rome destroyed Carthage so thoroughly that we know their history only through Roman sources. This is the terror that drives Israeli strategy—survival through total victory. But Rome fell too, exhausted by perpetual war. Both sides fear becoming Carthage; both risk becoming late Rome.
Theater Three: United States — The Republic's Crisis
Historical Pattern: Republics collapse when internal factions value victory over their opponents more than the survival of the republic itself. See: Athens (Peloponnesian War), Rome (Social Wars → Civil Wars), Weimar Germany, modern Venezuela.
Why: The United States has geographic immunity (oceans, weak neighbors) but is destroying itself from within. Urban/rural divide, coastal/interior, knowledge economy/industrial decay, demographic change, information warfare, institutional delegitimization.
The Ancient Crisis This Resembles: The Roman Republic, 133-27 BCE (from the Gracchi to Augustus).
- Gracchi reforms (133-121 BCE) = Progressive economic policies (2008-2016) (wealth redistribution, elite resistance)
- Marius vs. Sulla (88-78 BCE) = Trump vs. Establishment (2016-2020) (populist general vs. conservative senate)
- First Triumvirate = Tech oligarchs + Political factions (informal power-sharing, undermining formal institutions)
- Crossing the Rubicon = January 6, 2021 (point of no return, norms shattered)
- Civil Wars = What comes next (2025-203?)
Key Insight: The Roman Republic didn't fall to external invasion—it committed suicide. The institutions remained; the spirit died. We're past the Rubicon. The question isn't "if" the republic ends, but "what comes after"—Augustus (stable autocracy) or continued civil war?
Part II: The New Ancient Cities — A Provocative Mapping
The New Constantinople: Istanbul (Literally)
Why it's still Constantinople:
- Sits between Europe and Asia (geographic necessity)
- Controls crucial sea routes (Bosphorus, Dardanelles)
- Plays East against West and West against East (Erdogan's strategy)
- Orthodox vs. Catholic vs. Muslim tensions (echoing Byzantine religious politics)
- Declining empire trying to reclaim former glory (Ottoman nostalgia)
2025 Status: Turkey is the kingmaker in Ukraine (drone supplies), the negotiator in grain deals, the NATO member that won't quite commit, the Muslim power that maintains ties with Israel while supporting Palestinians. Just like Byzantine emperors playing diplomacy as an art form.
The Pattern: Empires fall, but strategic geography remains. Istanbul will matter in 2125.
The New Rome: Washington D.C.
Why it's Rome (and not New York or Los Angeles):
- Imperial capital projecting global power (400+ military bases worldwide)
- Feeds on tribute from provinces (dollar hegemony, defense spending extraction)
- Bread and circuses (social programs + entertainment complex)
- Senate vs. Emperor dynamics (Congress vs. Executive, increasingly executive wins)
- Praetorian Guard (intelligence agencies, deep state)
- Barbarians at the gates (immigration crisis, border anxiety)
- Internal decadence while enemies gather (culture wars while China rises)
- Infrastructure decay (roads and aqueducts crumbling, literally)
2025 Status: Late Imperial Rome, somewhere between Marcus Aurelius (philosopher emperor, system still works) and Diocletian (strongman reforms, empire splits). The Rubicon is crossed; we're in the crisis of the third century, waiting for Constantine or the final collapse.
The Question: Will America find its Constantine (strongman who stabilizes) or continue fragmenting until there's an Augustus (founder of stable autocracy) or just... fall?
The New Athens: San Francisco/Bay Area
Why it's Athens:
- Democracy invented here (tech democracy, digital direct participation)
- Philosophy and ideas dominate (tech ideology, effective altruism, rationalism)
- Naval power (metaphorically: digital networks, control of information seas)
- Pericles' golden age followed by plague (dot-com boom → COVID)
- Overreach and hubris (Iraq War support, surveillance capitalism, "don't be evil" abandoned)
- Beautiful ideals, ugly realities (homeless crisis beneath utopian tech rhetoric)
- Exports culture but loses actual wars (exports apps, loses manufacturing)
2025 Status: Post-Peloponnesian War Athens—still culturally influential, politically irrelevant, economically hollowed out. The tech industry is what Athenian philosophy became: influential but impotent.
The New Sparta: Moscow
Why it's Sparta:
- Militaristic society where everything serves the state (Putin's Russia)
- Oligarchy pretending to be something else (ephors = oligarchs)
- Xenophobia and cultural isolation (declining USSR)
- Feared army, weak economy (military strong, GDP smaller than Texas)
- Helot underclass (ethnic minorities, conscripts)
- Laconic communication (Spartan brevity = Russian information warfare: terse, brutal, effective)
2025 Status: Sparta at war with Athens (Moscow vs. Western liberalism), knowing it will win battles but lose the cultural war. Sparta won the Peloponnesian War and gained... nothing. Athens lost and gained immortality. Russia may "win" in Ukraine and still collapse from internal contradictions.
The New Carthage: Gaza (and Palestinian Diaspora)
Why it's Carthage:
- Trading people without a land-based state (Phoenician colonies, Palestinian diaspora)
- Seen as existential threat by regional power (Rome's "Carthago delenda est" = "Hamas must be destroyed")
- Fights through proxies and asymmetric warfare (Hannibal's mercenaries = Hamas/Hezbollah)
- Demonized by the victor (we know Carthage through Roman propaganda; we know Palestine through Israeli and Western media)
- Destroyed repeatedly, rises repeatedly (Third Punic War = current war in Gaza)
2025 Status: Gaza is the city that refuses to die. Rome destroyed Carthage utterly in 146 BCE—salted the earth, sold survivors into slavery, erased it from maps. It came back anyway. Gaza will too, because desperation breeds resilience.
The Warning: Rome destroyed Carthage and gained nothing but guilt and eventual barbarian invasion. Total victory is pyrrhic.
The New Troy: Kyiv
Why it's Troy:
- Strategic city whose fall or survival determines regional order (Troy controlled Hellespont; Kyiv controls European eastern border)
- Under siege by superior power (Agamemnon = Putin)
- Defended by doomed heroes (Hector = Zelensky—brave, charismatic, fighting impossible odds)
- Prize in larger conflict (Helen of Troy = NATO expansion question)
- Everyone knows how it ends, but the siege continues (Iliad's inevitability)
- Will be mythologized for centuries regardless of outcome
2025 Status: Year 3 of a 10-year siege. Troy fell, but Aeneas escaped to found Rome. Kyiv may fall, but Ukrainian resistance will seed something new. Or Kyiv holds, and becomes the story that ends Russian imperialism.
The Twist: The Iliad isn't about whether Troy falls—it's about honor, rage, and the cost of war. Same with Ukraine.
The New Alexandria: Dubai
Why it's Alexandria:
- Built on trade, not production (Hellenistic commerce hub)
- Cosmopolitan crossroads (everyone passes through, few belong)
- Knowledge and luxury center (Library of Alexandria = luxury shopping + crypto conferences)
- Founded by empire, thrives in empire's shadow (Alexander = British Empire, thrives in American imperial shadow)
- Fragile—dependent on external power and trade routes
- Will be buried by sand if the money stops (literally—desert city on life support from oil/finance)
2025 Status: Peak Alexandria—before Caesar and Cleopatra, before Rome annexes it, before the library burns. Enjoy it while it lasts.
The New Babylon: Beijing
Why it's Babylon:
- Ancient empire reclaiming power (Babylon rising against Assyria = China rising against US)
- Hanging gardens (literal: Chinese infrastructure projects)
- Centralized autocracy with divine emperor (Nebuchadnezzar = Xi Jinping—president for life, cult of personality)
- Deports and assimilates conquered peoples (Babylon's policy = Xinjiang)
- Sophisticated bureaucracy (Babylonian administrative records = Chinese surveillance state)
- Astronomical/mathematical prowess (Babylonian astronomy = Chinese tech/AI)
- Builds walls (Babylon's walls = Great Firewall)
2025 Status: Peak Babylonian power, not yet conquered by Persia (the US) or Alexander (whatever comes after). But empires always fall. Always.
The Pattern: Babylon fell to Cyrus the Great because its own people opened the gates. China's weakness isn't military—it's internal legitimacy. The gates will open from within.
The New Thebes: Tehran
Why it's Thebes:
- Regional power that rivals the hegemon (Thebes rivaled Sparta/Athens; Iran rivals Saudi/Israel)
- Destroyed repeatedly, rises repeatedly (Thebes destroyed by Alexander, by Rome; Iran sanctioned, invaded, isolated)
- Sacred Band (elite unit fights to death) = Revolutionary Guards (ideological warriors)
- Ephemeral victories (Thebes beat Sparta at Leuctra, Iran wins proxy wars, but never achieves lasting dominance)
- Eventually destroyed by rising power that doesn't understand negotiation (Alexander razed Thebes; Israel/US may try similar)
2025 Status: Thebes after Leuctra—has proven it can win, not yet destroyed by Alexander. The destruction may be coming (Israel's nuclear calculus), or Iran may survive to see its enemies fall first.
The New Memphis: Cairo
Why it's Memphis:
- Ancient capital, no longer the center (Memphis was Egypt's capital before Alexandria; Cairo was the Arab world's cultural capital before oil shifted power to Gulf)
- Religious significance outlasts political power (Memphis's temples = Cairo's Al-Azhar)
- Struggling with modernity while clinging to ancient glory
- Massive population, minimal power (Memphis's size ≠ influence; Cairo's 20 million ≠ regional control)
2025 Status: Museum city. Influential in culture (Al-Azhar still certifies Islamic legitimacy), irrelevant in power politics. Egypt is no longer Egyptian—it's a client state managing poverty while regional players (Turkey, Iran, Saudi Arabia, Israel) make decisions.
The New Persepolis: Riyadh
Why it's Persepolis:
- Built on tribute from satrapies (Persian provinces = oil-dependent world economy)
- Spectacular wealth funding grandiose projects (Persepolis's palace = NEOM, The Line, Vision 2030)
- Absolute monarchy with divine pretensions (Achaemenid kings = House of Saud)
- Multi-ethnic empire held together by money and fear (Persian Empire's diversity = Saudi's migrant workforce)
- Zoroastrian theocracy = Wahhabi theocracy (religious law as state legitimacy)
- Will be burned by the next Alexander (climate change, or the post-oil collapse)
2025 Status: Peak Persepolis. The wealth is staggering, the projects audacious. But Alexander is coming—his name is "renewable energy transition." When oil dies, the desert reclaims the palaces.
The New Jerusalem: Jerusalem (Actually)
Why it's still Jerusalem:
- Some cities transcend metaphor—they ARE the archetype
- Three religions' eternal capital (Judaism, Christianity, Islam—then and now)
- Destroyed repeatedly, never abandoned (Babylon, Rome, Crusaders, etc.)
- More fought over than inhabited (perpetual conflict zone)
- Center of prophecy, apocalypse, end times (then and now)
2025 Status: Exactly what it's always been—the city where the world ends or begins, depending on your scripture. Every empire that touches it is cursed; every empire that ignores it is judged.
The Warning: Jerusalem destroyed Rome (the cost of the Jewish Wars bankrupted the empire). It destroyed Crusader kingdoms. It will destroy whoever "wins" it next. Some cities cannot be conquered—only endured.
Part III: The American Cities in Civil War Context
The New Carthage (American Edition): California (Specifically Los Angeles + Bay Area)
Why it's Carthage:
- Trading power, not martial power (tech + entertainment = trade goods)
- Distrusted by the "Rome" of interior America (seen as foreign, corrupting, un-American)
- Wealthy, cosmopolitan, multicultural (Carthage's Phoenician origins)
- If America has a civil war, California is the first target of "Cato the Elder" types ("California delenda est")
2025 Status: Carthage before the Third Punic War—wealthy, disarmed, trusting in treaties that won't save it.
The New Athens (American Edition): New York City
Why it's Athens:
- Cultural and financial capital (Athenian democracy + commercial power)
- Empire's brain, not its muscle (Wall Street + UN = Delian League treasury)
- Exports ideology (neoliberalism, multiculturalism = Athenian democracy)
2025 Status: Post-Pericles Athens—still rich, still influential, but the Peloponnesian War (American polarization) is destroying it from within.
The New Sparta (American Edition): Texas + Florida Coalition
Why it's Sparta:
- Militaristic culture (both states have huge military presence)
- "Freedom" rhetoric masking authoritarian governance (Spartan "equals" were tiny minority)
- Governor as warrior-king (DeSantis, Abbott as ephors/kings)
- If civil war comes, these are the military core of the "red" faction
2025 Status: Sparta preparing for war with Athens, confident in military superiority, ignorant of economic/cultural vulnerabilities.
The New Rome (American Edition): Washington D.C. (Redux)
Already covered above, but worth emphasizing:
- If America has civil war, D.C. is the prize everyone fights for (like Rome in the civil wars)
- Whoever controls D.C. controls legitimacy (Caesar in Rome, Lincoln in D.C., ???)
- The city itself is irrelevant—it's the symbolism
2025 Status: Rome during Marius and Sulla—about to be fought over, will never be the same after.
Part IV: The Pattern of Decline and What Comes After
The Simple Pattern (Rich Hickey's Wisdom Applied)
Strip away complexity, find the essence:
Phase 1: Hegemonic Peace (Pax Romana, Pax Britannica, Pax Americana)
- Single power enforces rules
- Trade flourishes under protection
- Culture spreads with commerce
- Seems permanent; isn't
Phase 2: Overreach (Rome in Germania, Britain in Afghanistan, US in Iraq/Afghanistan)
- Hegemon tries to expand beyond sustainable borders
- Military victories, strategic defeats
- Cost exceeds benefit
- Domestic support erodes
Phase 3: Internal Division (Rome's civil wars, Britain's class wars, America's culture wars)
- External enemies are manageable
- Internal enemies become existential
- Factions prefer destroying each other to defending the system
- Republic dies, empire follows
Phase 4: Fragmentation (Western/Eastern Rome, British Commonwealth, American ???)
- Formal unity, actual division
- Trade zones become political zones
- Successor states claim legitimacy
- The "new normal" for centuries
Phase 5: Dark Ages or Renaissance? (This is the choice)
- Dark Ages: Knowledge lost, trade collapses, violence normalizes (Europe 500-800 CE)
- Renaissance: Knowledge preserved in monasteries/city-states, eventually flowers (Italy 1400s)
We are in Phase 3, approaching Phase 4.
The question for Guardian Garden communities: How do we prepare for Phase 5?
The Ecological Wisdom (Helen Atthowe Applied)
Helen Atthowe teaches: Don't till the soil; observe the patterns; work with nature.
Applied to geopolitics:
Don't till the soil:
- Don't try to reform empires in collapse—they'll take you down
- Don't till the social soil with revolution—it creates more chaos than crops
Observe the patterns:
- Empires always fall
- Regional powers always rise
- Cities on trade routes survive empires
- Gardens survive sieges
Work with nature:
- Human nature: people need food, shelter, community, meaning
- Geographic nature: rivers, mountains, climate determine what's possible
- Historical nature: the same patterns recur because the same forces apply
The Guardian Garden Strategy:
- Build in the spaces empires ignore (rural areas, between cities)
- Create resilient local systems (food, water, energy, data)
- Preserve knowledge (like monasteries in Dark Ages)
- Connect to other gardens (networks, not hierarchies)
- Wait for the empire to fall
- Be ready for what comes after
Part V: Predictions and Preparations (2025-2050)
Predictions (Based on Pattern Recognition, Not Prophecy)
Ukraine War (New Greco-Persian Wars):
- Russia "wins" by exhausting Ukraine (Pyrrhic victory, like Persian Empire's hollow victory at Thermopylae before Salamis)
- Russia collapses 10-20 years later (imperial overreach + demographic collapse)
- Ukraine becomes the story that inspires next generation of resistance to autocracy (like Greek victory inspired Western civilization)
Gaza/Iran War (New Punic Wars):
- Israel "wins" militarily, loses strategically (Rome defeated Carthage but gained eternal enemies)
- Iran regime falls not to external war but internal revolution (like Thebes destroyed by its own contradictions)
- Palestinian diaspora becomes the identity that outlasts states (like Jewish diaspora after Rome)
- Jerusalem remains unconquerable
American Crisis (New Roman Civil Wars):
- 2024-2028: Escalating polarization, violence, institutional breakdown (Marius/Sulla phase)
- 2028-2032: Either strongman emerges (American Augustus) or fragmentation accelerates (Yugoslavia scenario)
- 2032-2050: If strongman, stable autocracy with regional autonomy; if fragmentation, competing American states with trade agreements
- Either way: The Republic is dead; long live... whatever comes next
Global Order:
- American hegemony ends 2030s (like British hegemony ended 1940s)
- No successor hegemon (China too internally fragile, nobody else strong enough)
- Multipolar chaos (like 1900s Europe before WWI)
- Regional blocs: North American, European, Chinese, Islamic, South Asian, Latin American
- Climate refugees (hundreds of millions) destabilize everything
Preparations (For Guardian Garden Communities)
Assume:
- Trade routes disrupted (get local supply chains now)
- Financial system instability (get out of purely financial assets)
- Government services unreliable (build mutual aid networks)
- Information warfare (learn to verify truth locally)
- Migration pressure (prepare to receive climate refugees with dignity)
Build:
- Food sovereignty (veganic gardens, seed libraries, preservation skills)
- Energy resilience (solar, wind, micro-hydro, community grids)
- Water security (wells, rainwater, purification, conservation)
- Data sovereignty (local servers, mesh networks, knowledge preservation)
- Defense (not military, but community protection and conflict resolution)
- Meaning (people need purpose; create it through community, craft, care)
Connect:
- Other Guardian Gardens (mutual aid when regions fail)
- Refugee communities (they bring skills and motivation)
- Monasteries/knowledge centers (preserve learning through dark times)
- Underground railroads (for when people need to escape)
Preserve:
- Seeds (heirloom varieties, adapted to local conditions)
- Knowledge (books, hard drives, oral traditions)
- Skills (farming, building, healing, teaching, making)
- Values (compassion, reciprocity, ecological wisdom, simplicity)
- Hope (this is the hardest and most essential)
Conclusion: After Empire, the Garden
From the Tao Te Ching (Stephen Mitchell): *"The empire is a sacred vessel, and must not be tampered with. Those who tamper with it, ruin it. Those who seize it, lose it."*
From the Gospel (Stephen Mitchell): *"Do not store up treasures on earth, where moth and rust destroy. But store up treasures in heaven— which is to say, in the eternal patterns, in the garden, in community."*
From Rich Hickey: *"Simplicity is the ultimate sophistication. Complex systems fail in complex ways. Simple systems endure."*
From Helen Atthowe: *"The soil remembers everything. Empires rise and fall, but the garden endures. Work with nature, not against it."*
The Final Mapping
Constantinople endures because geography is destiny. Rome falls because empires always fall. Athens lives forever in ideas, dies in politics. Sparta wins battles and loses history. Carthage is destroyed and rises as an idea. Troy falls and seeds new empires. Babylon declines because autocracy is fragile. Jerusalem remains because some cities are eternal wounds. Alexandria drowns in luxury and sand. Thebes fights bravely and dies anyway.
The pattern is clear. The choice is ours.
We can cling to empires as they fall (Rome's citizens cheering in the Colosseum while Goths approached).
Or we can build gardens in the ruins (Irish monks copying manuscripts in 600 CE, preserving knowledge for the Renaissance 800 years later).
Guardian Garden chooses the latter.
Not because we're naive about power. Not because we're ignorant of history.
But because we've read history carefully enough to know: **Empires fall. Gardens endure. Simple systems survive. Communities persist. Knowledge returns. Life finds a way.**
Appendix: The Questions This Essay Raises
For the reader to contemplate:
- If your city is the new [ancient city], what does that mean for your strategy?
- Which phase of decline is your nation in?
- What are you preserving for the future?
- When empire falls, will your community survive?
- Are you building gardens or defending palaces?
The most important question: What would you do differently if you knew—truly knew—that this empire will fall within your lifetime?
This essay is dedicated to:
- The monasteries that preserved knowledge through the Dark Ages
- The gardens that fed communities when empires collapsed
- The migrants who will flee the coming chaos (may we welcome them)
- The children who will inherit whatever we leave (may we leave them gardens, not ruins)
Released to Public Domain. No copyright, no ownership, just pattern recognition and humble preparation.
For Guardian Garden PBC and all who prepare for what comes after empire.
"In the space between the fall of one empire and the rise of the next, gardens grow." 🌱
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